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14-year-old tries to flush newborn, kills baby.

by joelnet on April 8th, 2008

An 8th grade texas girl, who had been hiding her pregnancy, gave birth in her junior high bathroom.

The infant was alive and most-likely full term when she tried to flush her baby boy down the toilet, killing him in the process.

The girl has been taken to the hospital.

It is unknown if she will be charged. Texas is the wrong place to be killing infants, as it is a capital crime, though her age may save her from the death penalty.

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April RJ
Apr 8, 2008 at 4:16 pm

Age shouldn’t save this little bitch from anything. She was old enough to spread her legs but not old enough to deal with the baby that came from it. I was not innocent at 14 / 15 but I sure the hell knew how to not get pregnant. Sheesh!
CJsmamaLeah
Apr 9, 2008 at 9:36 am

I’m seriously sick of people getting away with horrible crimes because they were “too young to know better”. This girl had to know there were other (read *better*) options. If a person is old enough to decide whether or not they want to have sex, they are old enough to deal with the consequences. Her actions show fear of reprisal, nothing more. She didn’t want to get in trouble for having sex, so she tried to flush the evidence.
kitten
Apr 9, 2008 at 11:01 am

The girl is not that old. I can’t help wondering if the baby was the result of sexual abuse. It doesn’t excuse what she did, but the father should have to share some of the blame.
burnt_crawfish
Apr 9, 2008 at 2:41 pm

What the hell are 14 year olds doing having sex? Where are the parents? I didn’t even have my first kiss till I was 15 and didn’t have sex till I was 17 cause I was taught better than that. Do parents these days let the tv and friends be the sexual education and other than that they just don’t bother with it? I hope her parents get reality smacked in their face at how much of a miserable failure they are.
rockxaction
Apr 9, 2008 at 7:20 pm

I’m pretty sure the cutoff here in Texas for the death penalty is 16. 17 is technically an adult, but really, what would killing this girl do? It doesn’t teach teenagers not to have sex, it doesn’t bring back the baby, it doesn’t settle any outrage, and she will never again have to think about what she has done.

That poor child….
Ihavekidstoo
Apr 10, 2008 at 11:02 am

I agree that the death penalty will solve nothing in this case. I do think she should have the living crap smacked out of her - and her parents too.

You see these stories all the time, how some girl is pregnant and her parents never know about it until the baby pops out. How can you be so oblivious to your own child that you fail to notice something as monumental as a pregnancy?

As for flushing the baby, let’s remember that this 14-year-old has grown up in a society that tells her the baby is not a human being - and not protected by the law or ethics - while it’s still in the womb. If you don’t value the baby before it’s born why would a few months (and a few inches) change your mind AFTER it’s born?
loving_mom
Apr 10, 2008 at 8:20 pm

I don’t think this very young girl needs to be slandered. Sure what she did was wrong and unforgiveable but, look at our society today.

14-year-old little girls have role models like Britney Spears, granted I also feel that she should not be bashed for going through some very harsh PPD.

I am in no way condoning what she did or saying it is ok but killing her would solve nothing. Teenagers are so stubborn and out of control that it is ridclious. It was not so long ago that I was 14 (6 years) and I was out of control. Doing drugs, drinking, sex, you name it. Parents are working way more and not taking time to ask their kids how they day was much less to check to make sure their kid is where they say they are. I promise that she will be hurt more by keeping her alive to think about what she did.

What I want to know is how her parents missed her huge belly? I am not sure about any of the other mommies here but I WAS FREAKIN HUGE!!! You could not miss me lol. There is no way in hell that she went all the way to 9 months without anyone noticing.

She deserves to have the book thrown at her but, her parents need a rude awakening also. They are just as irresponsible as her. I am sure if her belly went unnoticed she had no pre-natal care and that is irresponsilbe on the parents behalf. With that care other options could have been brought up. Adoption, and birth control.

Just to get this out there I dont want to hear the shitty excuse of “Maybe she did not have good health insurance.” That argument is bull crap. State Medicaid will grant you insurance if you are pregnant, both for you and the baby. I am sure it varies from state to state but, once you have the baby they will also help with birth control and pay for it. They now have some many great methods for birth control other then the pill. Not to mention your baby will also have medicaid for X-amount of years.

Young moms getting assistance from the government are not all gold-digging hoes. Sadly a lot of teenage and young moms are scared to get or ask for help because they are scared they will be looked at like scum. In reality asking for help is a very respectful thing.

I wish that these young moms would swallow their pride and get over themselves….I did.
Hellcat
Apr 11, 2008 at 4:44 am

Ihavekidstoo,
It’s pretty easy for a parent not to notice. Her classmates said they didn’t notice- so she probably didn’t gain a lot of weight. Some of us are lucky. I wore my regular jeans all the way through and home from the hospital.
I didn’t bother telling friends or family until the 8th month when my husband let it slip at the bar one night. They had no idea. One of them thought I was anorexic because I puked every time we went out together. I just didn’t want to be hassled at all. I didn’t want to talk about it, to have people touch me.
So I know first hand how easy it is to hide it…
But also, trying to flush a baby is something I couldn’t even begin to relate to. What the hell? I don’t know whether I’m more horrified that she tried to flush her own child, or that she was stupid enough to think he would go down the hole. What about adoption? She had the kid anyway… No common sense. If she survives all of this someone needs to stick her face in a toilet and sew her vagina shut.

Also, where I live it’s currently the norm for 12 year olds to have sex. I was playing with Barbies at 12. Uggh.
Hellcat
Apr 11, 2008 at 4:45 am

I am not sure why so many of you are blaming the parents.
Shes 14. Was she supposed to be locked up in her room? For all we know she would go to school and have sex in the bathrooms. Tons and tons of kids are doing it these days. Are we to inspect our daughters vaginas frequently to see if they’re using them?
loving_mom
Apr 11, 2008 at 5:55 am

Hellcat,

I agree with you about the parents and the sex in the bathroom. I can not tell you how many girls and boys got suspended for that at school. I am not blaming the parents entirely. I know what 14 year old girls do. What I am saying is that the parents should have taken better precaution when their daughter was home. There is abosolutley nothing wrong with a small check up. Since she did get pregnant that means she did have a menstrual cycle. Are parents really to busy to take their teenage daughter to the doctor to have a check-up?

Birth control, weather it be the pill or an IUD, for a teenage female,sexually active or not, is not a bad idea. They help regulate your period, help with cramps and a lot of the time they control your bleeding to help you have a shorter and lighter period. I can promise you that once my daughter get her first she will go to the doctor and weather or not she is having sex she will be put on birth control. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that.

Once again I don’t want to hear the crap of “She may not have had health insurance.” You can go to the health department and get birth control based on your income….sometimes free even.
Kristy
Apr 11, 2008 at 5:35 pm

I know I’m going to be shot down for this, but I feel so incredibly sorry for this girl. Imagine the horror this girl must have been going through. Fear is such a cycle; the more you put it off, the more you fear. The more you fear, the more you put it off. In the end this girl must have been consumed by terror and let’s face it, she’s a kid and kids are so not equipped to deal with things like this. I can completely understand how she saw no “good” way out. And I’m not saying she thought flushing her baby down the toilet was a good way out, but she was terrified and confused. All the free medical, safe haven rules etc can go to hell, she was scared plain and simple. The baby had become less and less human and more and more the “problem”. She just saw the pregnancy as the thing that was going to ruin her life. We can’t blame her for that, she’s FOURTEEN. Women who are 40 experience the same kind of emotions sometimes it’s just that as adults they have the tools to deal with them.

Before you slag her off, imagine the horror of giving birth alone, in a toilet, at school, when you’re 14. She’s been dreading this for as long as she’s known she was pregnant, putting it off, getting more scared… She must have been in absolute terror.

I’m not condoning what she did, I’m not saying flushing babies down the toilet is an admirable or acceptable thing to do, I’m just saying don’t crucify her completely. Have some human empathy. Because we’re adults, and should act that way.
Hellcat
Apr 12, 2008 at 9:26 am

Kristy
Just imagine how fearful the BABY BOY must have been. After such an ordeal he probably expected and needed to be held by his mother, and she drops him into a filthy public toilet and proceeds to try to flush him into the sewage system, where she expected him to drown in shit and piss.
Hellcat
Apr 12, 2008 at 9:33 am

Also, you can’t expect some of us to buy the 14 year old being just a child bit. We’ve already discussed that 14 now is a very different 14 from when any of us were that age. Girls are smoking, drinking, and having sex at 12.
When I was 14 I was far from being as stupid and pathetic as this little tramp. I had my own scare. I researched all of my options, decided adoption, and went to the local health unit to get a test. Why couldn’t she have done that? She thought she was mature enough to have sex, so that’s that.
Of course it would be an entirely different story if she was abused and the child had been a product of rape. That’s just about the only way to explain her completely bizarre actions.
Jenn
Apr 12, 2008 at 11:58 am

I’m sorry, but I don’t think this girl’s age should save her from a sentencing for MURDER.

I don’t care if she’s fourteen. I don’t care if she was scared. I don’t care if she was sexually abused.

NONE of that is an excuse for murder.
mom2tbet
Apr 12, 2008 at 1:07 pm

I was 16 when i got pregnant with my oldest son. My parents kept an eye on me - i had to honor a curfew, inform them of where i was, date in groups, etc. What they failed to acknowledge is that sex doesn’t have to happen in a bed, and it certainly doesn’t have to take hours and hours!

I knew i was pregnant from almost day one. However, in my teenage state of mind, i chose to ignore it. My body took to the denial and I didn’t show in the least. I went to Homecoming, in a snug fitting gown, I continued to work and go to school. It was as if the pregnancy didn’t exist.

I was petrified at the very thought of telling my old-school catholic parents that i had shamed them by getting pregnant. That fear overtook any sense of reason that perhaps they needed to know for medical purposes.

I finally gathered every ounce of nerve i possessed to tell them when i was 7½mos pregnant. My ’sign’ was when my son kicked me in the ribs in math class one day. It was the realization that, regardless of my ‘out of sight, out of mind’ mentality, there is a baby and its going to arrive sooner than later.

My fears were justified. My parents reacted exactly how i thought they would. It was a horrible, stressful time for me.

I fully understand the fear these young people have. And it wasn’t until i matured into an adult before i realized the risk i put my son and I by not being monitored by a doctor.

My parents, my siblings, my friends, my teachers - none of them had any inkling that i was pregnant. It actually amazes me that no one caught on. But its funny, once the cat was out of the bag, my body relaxed and finally allowed the pregnancy to show. Like, in a matter of days i went from being flat stomached to having a baby belly. The mind is incredibly powerful!

So, to an extent, I can fully grasp the place these girls are in, mentally and emotionally. However, I know that the one thing that stopped the denial was the fact that it was always a baby. Not a thing, but a baby. And I could never hurt a baby, be it someone else’s or especially my own.

This girl should have a punishment. But she should also live to mature enough to understand the gravity of her actions. It may take a year or 10. But one day, it will haunt her, that she would treat her baby that way. Perhaps it will take her finding the love of her life and establishing her own family unit. But there will be a gap in her heart from this. It just will take some time for her to realize it.
m0mof2
Apr 12, 2008 at 4:08 pm

Ok - not that I am taking anyone’s side, but I remember what it was like to be 14. Let’s say she was in complete denial, and there are documented cases of women who had been raped, etc who are in complete denial of the fact that they are even pregnant until the day a baby suddenly pops out.
Being in complete denial she might have gone into the toilet because she was having what she thought was cramps - baby coulda come out (which has happened to other people) and if she happened to get woozy at that time she might have blanked out for awhile and when she came to , baby had already drowned in the toilet water. I had personally “passed out” many times as a teenager during really bad menstrual cramps as I sat on the toilet.

I am not saying this is what happened and I will probably have a bunch of people flaming me. I am just proposing a possible scenario.
Hellcat
Apr 12, 2008 at 6:42 pm

mom2tbet, it’s funny that you mentioned not showing it until you had really accepted it. It was kind of like that for me. I planned for a baby but wanted to completely ignore that there was a fetus first. Once everyone knew and I couldn’t ignore it I did start to grow a bit (around 8 months into it)
Hellcat
Apr 12, 2008 at 6:44 pm

She certainly shouldn’t be allowed to breed again. Imagine your family life knowing that your mother did that to your big brother.
Ihavekidstoo
Apr 13, 2008 at 10:55 am

OK, I’m going to get flamed for this but here goes … the ONLY significant difference between teens today (like this girl) and the teens when I was a teen (back in the Middle Ages) is that the kids today seem to be totally unaware of the concept of consequences and basic right and wrong.

Yes, we had all the same temptations and opportunities for sex, drugs and screwing up that kids have today. The DIFFERENCE is we had parents who instilled in us from the time we were infants that we are all responsible for our own actions and that our actions, by God, had better be RIGHT actions.

If this girl had those basic concepts instilled in her from day one, no matter how much she wanted to deny her pregnancy and ignore the baby, she would have know it was wrong to do so. Wrong for her health, wrong for the debt of honesty she owes her parents, and wrong for the future of this little baby.

So, no I really can’t find too much sympathy in my heart for her or her parents.
rockdoll_71
Apr 13, 2008 at 11:31 am

I have to agree with April on this. Age shouldn’t be a factor. This stupid girl knew what she was doing. I knew by the age of 14 that you could get pregnant. I don’t have an ounce of sympathy for her.
loving_mom
Apr 13, 2008 at 12:18 pm

I agree with Ihavekidstoo. Parents these days are to busy trying to work to pay bills. They don’t make time for their kids much less time to make sure they are responsible.

Going on the scenario that she was to scared to face her parents for fear of rejection….that just goes to show how parents lose connection with their children. I am hoping and praying that when my daughter is old enough to make the decision that she wants to be sexually active that our relationship will be trustworthy and strong enough for her to tell me. I am not saying that teens should get preggers and run tell mom and dad. I am saying that if my daughter happens to get pregnant at 14 that she will trust me enough to come and tell me. I would much rather her tell me then hide it from me and put herself and my grandbaby in harms way. This will also give my husband and I the opportunity to make sure that she realizes that she is going to be a mom, she is going to finish school, she is going to raise this baby, and that we will be there to HELP her. Not raise the baby for her but, help her. If the father of the child wants to be a part of our daughters life and/or the babies then so be it. If he chooses not to be a part of my daughters life but a part of the babies then there is no joking around. We will make it just as clear to him as to her they are parents and we will do what we can to help them. If he chooses not to have anything to do with either of them he better not ever show up around my house again.
Jenn
Apr 13, 2008 at 2:46 pm

Ihavekidstoo, you won’t see any flaming from me. I’m not quite 24 years old, and I fully agree with you. I was raised properly, and would have had my ass handed to me for half the things kids these days do without barely making a ripple. A lot of the kids these days, from age 18 and younger? I don’t know what the fuck happened. *shakes head*
maminka1979
Apr 13, 2008 at 3:33 pm

loving_mom, as a mother of two daughters, I agree with your thoughts completely. I’d go one further to say why would you get mad at all? I would be disappointed, but once it’s done what are you going to do? I would insist that she make the decision on what to do herself (adoption, abortion, or keeping him or her), but would support her emotionally no matter what the decision. If she was old enough to make a baby, she had better be able to deal with the consequenses of her choices. I guess great minds think alike.
Kitty
Apr 15, 2008 at 1:18 am

I have a friend whose mother gave birth out of at 15, her Grandmother (out of wedlock) at 14, and her Great grandmother married at 13, and had her first child (11 lbs) seven months later.

I argue that at 14 you are NOT as responsible as adults. Your brain doesn’t finish chemically maturing until you are in your early twenties. You are simply not as capable of thinking ahead and understanding the consequences as well as an adult.

Teenagers are dumb. They will do a lot of bad stuff if they aren’t guided correctly.

My friend? She was a virgin until she was nineteen, married the first guy she slept with at 22, didn’t have a baby until she was 28, and is still happily married at 38.

Why did things turn out so differently for her? Because her mother recognized a pattern when she saw one. She educated her daughter, and made her spend time with children and infants so that her daughter would understand just what a responsibility a baby was. She showed her how unreliable birth control was, and gave her a prescription for birth control and a pack of condoms when she turned 16.

The girl was a little shocked, but that drove it home to her how serious a decision sex was and that she was risking a LOT.

That’s why when her friends were having sex, she politely said “no.” That’s why she never smoked pot, or did drugs, even though they were at her school. That’s why she and her sisters all have college diplomas, when no one else in the family has finished high school.

This girl is the first person in her family to go to college. Why? Because her mother raised her properly.

I don’t blame the 14 year-old. I blame her mother and father for not teaching her better. I’m not saying that what she did wasn’t murder. or that she shouldn’t be punished. But her parents should go to prison longer. Teenagers are naturally dumb. It’s a parent’s job to smarten them up.
Ihavekidstoo
Apr 15, 2008 at 2:56 am

Kitty, well said! I completely agree!
April RJ
Apr 15, 2008 at 11:51 am

I agree that her mother and father are to blame - But at 14 you still know that murder is wrong. She went far beyond being a dumb 14 year old. The girls that video taped themselves beating up the other chick to post it on youtube were dumbe teenagers. This one is just downright EVIL…
devin_babyyy
Apr 23, 2008 at 3:43 pm

Ohkay, I am fourteen years old as well. Think what you want of me, but I have had sex three times. Doing this doesn’t make me slutty. The guy I have “done it” with has been with me for almost nine months. I had a miscarriage once. I was petrified. I found out I was pregnant, and I didn’t tell anyone. I thought about suicide numerous times. I ended up “tripping” down the stairs, and I took another test two or three days afterwards, with it resulting as a negative.

This girl actually ended up having her baby. Put yourself in her shoes. Stranded, alone, in a public bathroom ; giving birth! You probably wouldn’t have drowned the baby, but I’d say you would have had a sudden thought about it.

This girl tried too escape being ridiculed and tied-down for what are suppossed to be the “best years of her life”. she done the first thing that popped into her head and went with it.
catsy101
Apr 23, 2008 at 4:03 pm

Today’s day and age is very different from when we were kids. We didn’t think about sex at 12 or 13 or even 14. We watched cartoons, hung outside with our friends, and maybe flirted a little with some of the guys. But that’s it. Now, kids are having sex at unbelievably young ages. Can we say that because they are sexually active at such a young age, that we should give them excuses for things like this?

NO. Here’s why. It’s simple really. When we were kids, we didn’t have sex at these young ages, we also were not told too much about sex. My dad gave me a book, which kind of sort of explained the basics. And nothing else. But our kids are different. We talk to our kids about AIDS, pregnancy, other STDs (sexually Transmited Diseases). Our kids know about adoption as an option, they know about abortion as an option, they know about the morning after pill, about birth control pills, they know about condoms, they know about IUDS. And believe ME they DO know about these things. Pick up any magazine geared towards females, and they have ads all through them.

They can talk to their best friends and find out more about them. They see condoms in the store. BELIEVE ME, they KNOW about this stuff. We didn’t. Honestly as a child and a young teenager, we didn’t need to know because we weren’t having sex. But they do. My kids look up and see the emblem on the buildings that show the outline of a mother handing her child outward and they have asked me what those are. And I tell them, it’s a safe drop off place if someone needed to leave their newborn baby. If they couldn’t take care of it. KIDS KNOW THESE THINGS.

These things are taught in school. Sex Ed is getting geared towards younger and younger children as time goes by. Abortions are not that hard to get and you don’t even have to tell your parents, because you could get someone older to come with you and some clinics will look the other way even though they are supposed to talk to your parents.

And if she didn’t want the baby, there are even organizations now that will come if you call them. They will pick up the baby in a car, and will take it away with them and will never call your parents to tell them what happened.

So putting a newborn, (which btw is VERY different from an unborn fetus), into a toilet and trying to flush it is the meanest cruelest most heinous crime ever. FRY HER ASS.
catsy101
Apr 23, 2008 at 4:08 pm

Oh and DevvonBaby, I just hope to God my kids, who are all boys, NEVER come in contact with someone like you. Having sex at 14 IS being slutty even IF it is with one guy and only one guy. Not using protection is EVEN more slutty AND stupid. Yes, STUPID. Forget about getting pregnant Devvon, but think about the other problems that are even worse. AIDS never goes away, and eventually will kill you. Genital Herpes will be with you forever too, and will be passed on from partner to partner that you have throughout your life. Use a condom for christs sake! For your own good as well as anyone else you may have sex with down the line. Oh, and stay away from my sons.
catsy101
Apr 23, 2008 at 4:08 pm

Oh and DevvonBaby, I just hope to God my kids, who are all boys, NEVER come in contact with someone like you. Having sex at 14 IS being slutty even IF it is with one guy and only one guy. Not using protection is EVEN more slutty AND stupid. Yes, STUPID. Forget about getting pregnant Devvon, but think about the other problems that are even worse. AIDS never goes away, and eventually will kill you. Genital Herpes will be with you forever too, and will be passed on from partner to partner that you have throughout your life. Use a condom for christs sake! For your own good as well as anyone else you may have sex with down the line. Oh, and stay away from my sons.
rockdoll_71
Apr 23, 2008 at 4:09 pm

catsy101, I agree with you totally.

There is no justification for doing something like this. There are so many places you can leave a baby if you don’t want him/her.

Devin, if you are sexually active, please go on birth control so that you won’t be one of the teenagers we are reading about later that did something awful to her kid.
Ihavekidstoo
Apr 23, 2008 at 7:18 pm

Devin, if I knew an adult woman who told me she had unprotected sex three times with a guy she’d known just 9 months, I’d think SHE was slutty and stupid too.
catsy101
Apr 23, 2008 at 8:35 pm

Oh and had she been raped, or sexually abused, she could have gone to the police station and they would have given her a prescription for the morning after pill.
rockdoll_71
Apr 23, 2008 at 10:49 pm

Devin says and I quote:
“This girl actually ended up having her baby. Put yourself in her shoes. Stranded, alone, in a public bathroom ; giving birth! You probably wouldn’t have drowned the baby, but I’d say you would have had a sudden thought about it.”

No, Devin, I wouldn’t have thought about doing anything so mean and stupid. That’s the thing with a lot of teenagers. They want to play an adult game but they don’t have the sense that comes along with it. Teenagers, like this girl here, only think of themselves. That’s why it’s so important to use birth control if you are going to have sex, so that you don’t kill someone innocent, someone who NEVER asked to here here on this earth. Instead of thinking about how YOU would feel, think about how that poor baby felt with nobody to keep him safe, nobody to love him. That’s the victim here. Not some self absorbed idiot teenager who could have taken birth control and avoided this whole situation. Even if she had him, she could have left him in a hospital, fire department, police department, any safe haven. She shouldn’t have killed him.
endersdragon
Apr 28, 2008 at 3:26 am

First off, despite the “hang the bitch” crowds objections, you can’t fry a 14 year old. Though it wasn’t that long ago where we were one of the only countries that could.

I am just curious though, how is an unborn fetus that much different then a living child. If she had beaten herself in the stomach to kill the child the day before it was born, or even the hour before it was born) we would have a much different charge here.

She was stupid yes, she paniced yes, she did something truly devestating yes, but I really don’t think she is evil. Does she deserve to be punished, no doubt in my mind. Does she deserve to be executed or even locked away for life, no. It won’t be that much a a deterent to future offenders (no one outsider of her community will know about it, teens don’t watch the national news and when you are that paniced you don’t think about the consequences of your actions) and we could be losing a someone who could do a great amount of good in this world only to have to pay for her for the next 60 years.
catsy101
Apr 28, 2008 at 4:43 am

There is a HUGE difference between a fetus and a born baby. A fetus is still in the womb, it hasn’t taken it’s first breath, and really doesn’t feel much. A baby on the other hand, being flushed down a toilet, was most likely struggling, frightened, possibly crying, and believe me felt the pain of trying to be forced down the toilet. Also there is a huge difference in the amount of humanity a person has, between abortion, which is much different, and usually done in the EARLY stages of pregnancy, and giving birth and killing it. To me, one is murder. The other is fully legal, and normally done when the pregnancy is in a very early stage of development. I do not, I REPEAT do NOT agree with illegal abortion, (which is what your perfectly sweet little fourteen year old posting here did), nor do I agree with a woman punching herself in the stomach. And I don’t remember saying anything about hanging the little witch. My point to the fourteen year old is simple, you’ve had sex at fourteen, three times, so don’t delude yourself into believing you are not a slut, as she claims above. You ARE a slut if you are having sex without protection at the mere age of fourteen. It’s stupid AND slutty, and if I found out that my kids were having sex without protection at that age I think I would send their asses away to military school. One of the issues out there today is that parents are too afraid to interfere in their kid’s lives, they want to be up front and honest with their kids and they expect the same in return. That’s the way to get a fourteen year old who is out screwing everything and anything they can. That’s why I stay involved with my kids. I know where they are every step of the way. I check and make sure they are where they are supposed to be, and it hasn’t happened yet, but God help them if I ever find them lying about where they are. And by that, I mean I won’t hit them or abuse them, but I WILL make their lives a living HELL. And girls like that fourteen year old best stay away from my sons. When I forbid my kids to see someone, they stay away, and a girl like that, I don’t want her around my kids. I suspect any GOOD parent wouldn’t want a slut around their sons, or a male slut around their daughters.

From: Protective Mommy
catsy101
Apr 28, 2008 at 5:00 am

And Here is Why I don’t feel sorry for her:::

1. She could have prevented the pregnancy by using the birth control pill, or even better having the guy use a condom, or even better NOT HAVING SEX, OH WHAT A NOVEL IDEA

2. Once she realized she WAS pregnant, she could have gone to PP or another abortion place. She could have told them she was raped, if that were the case, and gone the day after the rape, and been given the morning after pill. Or once she found out she could have gotten an abortion. Lots of places don’t even charge and have money allocated towards that.

3. If she was intent on not having an abortion, she could have told her parents and looked into keeping it or adopting the child to a childless couple. Her parents would have been pissed, but they usually get over it and opt to help. Had her parents been too pissed to help she could have gone to a relative, an uncle, aunt, grandparent, friend’s home whose parent was okay with it, or even a pregnancy shelter like the Crisis Pregnancy Center where they have homes to live with.

4. If she was too afraid to do that, and was easily able to hide this pregnancy, she could have talked to a school guidance counselor, school nurse, or a teacher she trusted. They could have talked with her about options and told her about the drop off places for a newborn, and even offered to drive her to a drop off place. I am sure she knew about them anyway, but if not she could have gotten help there.

5. She is now at school and begins to go into labor. She could have made one simple phone call to almost any church, or charity organization. Most of them will come in an unmarked car, with a car seat and will take the baby away after cleaning him or her up. They won’t tell anyone, if you do not want them to, and they will bring the baby straight to the hospital, and will tell them that the mother could not keep this child.

In my opinion, she had FIVE chances to make this right. She did not take any of them. Instead she thought she would try to flush a baby down a toilet, and get rid of all of the evidence. I have no sympathy and for a child who has no concern for a baby she has just given birth to, whelp, that’s what serial killers are made of. So I kind of do hope she is in jail for years and years and years to come.
rockdoll_71
Apr 28, 2008 at 4:14 pm

Well said, Catsy101.