Deborah Reeder Pleads No Contest to Child Abuse for Having Sex with Her Son’s 17-Year-Old Friend
In Coral Springs, Florida, Deborah Reeder, 46, pleaded no contest to three counts of child abuse for having sex with a 17-year-old boy. Reeder, is a former substitute teacher and mother of three children, ages 8, 13 and 17. She was sentenced to 30 months of house arrest, to be followed by 12 years probation. Wow.
Reeder had sex with her son’s best friend four times. She was originally charged with three counts of unlawful sexual activity with a minor. She was able to negotiate a plea deal for reduced charges. Reeder charges were knocked down to third-degree felonies that each carry a maximum sentence of five years in prison.
Reeder does not have to register as a sex offender. However, she must complete a sex-offender treatment program.
She will be under house arrest for 18 months and must wear an electronic ankle bracelet. She also must complete 150 hours of community service. She is not allowed unsupervised contact with boys between the ages of 14 and 17 that aren’t members of her family.
Why would a grown woman have sex not once but four times with her son’s friend? How stupid! Of course, people are going to find out. Coo coo kachoo, Mrs. Robinson indeed.
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35 opinions for Deborah Reeder Pleads No Contest to Child Abuse for Having Sex with Her Son’s 17-Year-Old Friend
April RJ
Dec 2, 2007 at 10:26 am
What a skank! I didn’t think 17 year old boys were sexy when I was 17!!! UGH!
mom2tbet
Dec 2, 2007 at 11:39 am
Is this a new thing, or just new to the media/authorities? I’m baffled by the idea of a middle aged woman whoring herself to the teenagers. It can’t be the sex, is this to cushion her ego?
Its repulsive. She SHOULD be registered as a sex offender. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck….
rockdoll_71
Dec 3, 2007 at 2:06 am
I just can’t understand what a grown woman, especially her age, could see in a 17 year old boy. That’s disgusting.
endersdragon
Dec 3, 2007 at 2:18 am
Okay sorry if I seem unsympathtic to this… but wasn’t this sort of thing celebrated in American Pie (as well as other movies). Granted, Finch was 18 and granted Stifflers mom was a lot hotter but seriously how many states would this be legal in; and how many boys would brag about this. Sorry, even if this women is not exactally hot I don’t think its evil for a women to have sex with a 17 year old, 14 yes 15 yes, 16 probably at that age, 17 no.
endersdragon
Dec 3, 2007 at 2:22 am
P.S. To answer my own question, occording to http://teenadvice.about.com/library/weekly/qanda/blageofconsentchart.htm , this would be legal in all but 15 states. Once again, sorry if I have offended anyone but this seriously seems to be a bit dumb to me.
mom2tbet
Dec 3, 2007 at 4:56 am
Based on the info cited,
“If you are at the age of consent but your partner is OVER the age of majority, even if you yell yes at the top of your lungs and bring the condom, your partner could be guilty of Statutory Rape.”
http://teenadvice.about.com/blageofconsent2.htm
And here are definitions , per the same article:
Age of Consent: The age at which you can legally enter in to contract or agreements, including saying “yes” to having sex. Usually this age is between 14 and 17, although it can be as young as 12 and as old as 18.
Age of Majority: The age at which you are considered responsible and liable for actions or inactions under the law. This is not the same as the age you must be to; drive, smoke, drink alcohol, be forced in to the military or even vote. In most parts of the world the age of majority is 18 or 19.
http://teenadvice.about.com/library/weekly/qanda/blageofconsent.htm
Kathy
Dec 3, 2007 at 7:23 am
Enders, it was illegal. That is all that matters. If she didn’t want to be labeled a sex offender, she should have waited until he was 18.
Lots of things are celebrated in the movies (and video games) that aren’t legal. We don’t advocate those things do we?
Also, I don’t think is new at all. Its just that now these boys are being seen for the victims they ARE instead of “lucky.”
And I don’t think this boy is going to be seen as lucky by all the friends who find out he did this hideous woman.
donnam
Dec 3, 2007 at 10:54 am
Somethings just make you sick. That boys life is forever changed and although he may be feeling like he just had his Mrs.Robinson. He will reflect on this later in his life and probably not see it the same.
endersdragon
Dec 3, 2007 at 11:11 am
But what magically happens at 18 that makes it legal, that makes it okay. What % if 17 year olds have had sex before. The way I understand it statutory rape laws were made to protect valunerable nonsexual youth from older people. At 17 I think you are neither valunerable nor are you nonsexual. Kathy, are you trying to tell me that laws are never wrong? I am just not ready to ruin a womens life for something that would be legal in over 2/3s of states, and something I don’t get why it is still illegal when 17 year olds have sex (I know that might be hard for you to believe but it is a fact of life, go to a high school sometime.)
Not to mention think of why Florida still has the age of consent at 18, it has to do with their populations, old people and hispanics, both of which want that age of consent up as high as possible, hell they still have laws on the books (granted they can’t be enforced) making homosexual sex illegal, does that mean we should prosecute that too? I mean it is illegal and thats all that matters.
Kathy
Dec 3, 2007 at 11:23 am
I know kids have sex at 17. I know kids have sex at 14, hell even 13, but that is with other minors. I’m not that old. The laws were made to protect minors
Can you tell me why old people and Hispanics want the age of consent up as high as possible? I don’t quite understand your reasoning for that, especially since the age of consent for females is 16 there. The laws of the state are supported by a majority of the people. If the laws need to be changed, then it is up to the people. If she wanted to screw a 17 year old she should have done it in another state. She will be labeled a sex offender, but probably a non predatory, low risk one. She made the choice to “ruin her life” when she had sex with that boy. Chances are, her life was already pretty shitty and she was no Einstein when it came to making decisions anyway.
April RJ
Dec 3, 2007 at 11:24 am
endersdragon - Laws are laws. Period. If 18 is considered an age of consent, so be it. THAT MEANS SHE BROKE THE LAW! This hag took advantage of a young BOY! At her age, she should have known better. Besides, what could a 17 year old offer this woman?? Experience??? Hardly. All he had to offer her was a stiffy and probably 5 minutes of less than mind blowing sex. She’s a pig!!
endersdragon
Dec 3, 2007 at 12:51 pm
Old people= traditional values, and are less likely to understand younger populations (mainly that they have sex.) Hispanics= a largely catholic population, who fight premarital sex, sometimes with laws. In short both populations are against the concept of young people having sex. I highly doubt she took advantage of the young boy, more likely he took advantage of her in an emotionally violitile situation.
And do either one of you support Floridas laws against sodamy? Do you think we should have legislators regulating that. Because after all laws are laws. The PEOPLE have supported those laws for years, otherwise they would have been struck down. Like I said before, this is not my fight, I am just not ready to cruicify her just yet.
Kathy
Dec 3, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Enders, in Florida there have been rulings made in courts that say the sodomy law does not apply to consenting adults. Cathloics are not any more against pre-marital sex than any other organized religion. I live in a state in the Bible belt, largely Southern Baptist. We have the Sodomy laws here too.
Though this has nothing to do with this case because she is being prosecuted under a statutory rape law. No one here is crucifying her. We are just expressing our disgust with her. Most of us are mothers, alot of us are mothers of sons. We appreciate the protection of our children by the laws.
endersdragon
Dec 3, 2007 at 3:28 pm
There have been rulings yes, in fact the supreme court ruled it legal, but the laws are still on the books. I just think there is a huge difference between someone who has sex with a 12 year old or even a 14 or 15 year old and someone who has sex with a 17 year old, and most of your disgust should be saved for the previous one.
April RJ
Dec 3, 2007 at 7:08 pm
I’m disgusted all the way around. One would hope that a mother of a young man (such as this hooch) would have respect for another mother’s son. She is a predator and should betreated as such. I have seen way more attractive women than this hag, that any 17 year old boy would love to have 5 minutes alone with, that would NEVER consider having sex with a MINOR!!
April RJ
Dec 3, 2007 at 7:09 pm
BTW - She f*cked up her life (as Kethy pointed out) for what I’m sure was less than great sex. No matter what color you want to paint it, she is a stupid whore.
fourkidzmom
Dec 3, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Kinda looks like she could be related to Mary Kay Letourneau, doesn’t she? Looks like a long lost sister or maybe a cousin of hers. Blech!
rockdoll_71
Dec 4, 2007 at 3:55 am
All I know is that if I was that boy’s mother, I would be appalled that a woman that age took advantage of my son. Ok, maybe he was all for it but as the older person, the adult, she knew better. She should have taken the responsibility and declined or she should have not put herself in that situation. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but as for me, I find her actions morally reprehensible.
April RJ
Dec 4, 2007 at 9:01 am
rockdoll - I agree 100% That is the point I was trying to make. Believe me when I say that I can use an ego boost as much as any 32 year old woman once in a while. I don’t go look for the first horny teenage I can find and spread my legs. Shoot! I go get my hair cut and by some new clothes and prance around my hubby hoping that he’ll ask me to go out on a date. Usually that works out just fine. This woman is just sick! How would she have felt if it were her teenage son having sex with son middle aged hag??? Makes you think twice about letting your sons have sleep-overs!
stupipplshldntbreed
Dec 7, 2007 at 8:35 am
Here’s the problem. First of all if a 17 year old can be charged as an adult for murder, why can’t he have sex with an adult. It’s pretty hypocritical.
In addition, sex for men/boys is different than it is for women/girls. I believe it is or can be emotionally or mentally damaging for a young girl to be cooerced to have sex with an adult man, I don’t agree that it’s the same for a boy to have sex with a woman (and he generally would NOT have to be coerced, even a little).
Middle aged women like young boys for sex because they’ll do anything and they take instruction nicely lol
Young guys want sex with middle aged women cuz they’ve been around the block and know what’s what.
I would also like to say that I do NOT condone sex between adults and minors, but come on, the kid was 17, not 13, 14, 15. I think there are FAR more serious issues to address, like the winner who raped and killed the 8 day old baby.
Our justice system is SO full right now we’re letting criminals go, essentially unpunished. It’s time we start picking our battles more carefully. Right now all we’re teaching kids and criminals is that as long as you stick to “smaller crimes” you’re not going to get punished.
Kathy
Dec 7, 2007 at 9:48 am
Stuppl-
Lionel Tate was tried as an adult for murder when he was 12 years old.
And I absolutely don’t agree with you that it is less damaging for a young male to have sex with an adult female. Especially since it is scientific fact that females mature physically and emotionally sooner that males. I also know of an adult male who had this experience when he was younger and would tell you otherwise.
All those things you said earlier are just stereotypes. 17 year old boys are not sexually attractive to me at all. I don’t care how much instruction I can give them.
You say: “Right now all we’re teaching kids and criminals is that as long as you stick to “smaller crimes” you’re not going to get punished.”
If we let this woman go unpunished, wouldn’t it be essentially the same thing?
markme
Dec 13, 2007 at 1:36 am
I go with the idea that chronological age does not ensure maturity. Maturity is supposed to include ability to make good judgments. Under that theory maybe the boy should be the one punished. She sure didn’t show the best judgment considering today’s sexual-political atmosphere.
Once society had the common sense to admit sexual activity begins not long after puberty, but that full maturity and independence might not occur until well after marriage. Once it was not unusual for Grandma to your oldest children’s children to live with the parents.
If you look back 50, 150 or more years — you will find that the rising legal age of sexual consent is directly tied to economics and the industrial age. It takes longer for technological training. Yet parents no longer want to support multiple generations because in today’s mobile industrial society everyone must move independently were the jobs are. That’s right businesses are dictating your sexual mores and you are saying “yes sir!”.
But truthful the USA’s sexual mores are a joke worldwide. Old and young relationships are merely viewed as scandalous and silly minded, not outright illegal. Though the US is muscling treaty clauses that are slowing changing things. (Still marriage in India is still occurring at 12, though typically they have managed delaying births until 14-16 or older for centuries.)
sfdude_2008
Dec 16, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Oh look, another “f*ck you” look on that slut’s face in her mugshot! Stupid bitch! You don’t have sex with kids/teenagers at all!
abigailmiller
Dec 25, 2007 at 2:45 pm
If the genders were reversed here, ie if it had been someone’s dad doing someone else’s daughter, would our reactions be different? (Remember Buttafuoco? Wasn’t the public’s reaction that the girl was a skank? How come it’s always the female that’s the skank? Lolita.) Would we blame it all on the dad? Would there not be some questioning at least into how seductive the girl was, how much she “asked for it”? ANd if she were attractive, and had acted available, would we not be cutting the man some slack? I’m not saying we should. I’m just pointing out the double standard.
Also, regardless of the legal/moral issues of this woman having sex with a seventeen year old (and being dumb enough not to know he wouldn’t be able to resist telling his buddies) I think the person who may be psychologically hurt the most by this is the woman’s own son. Talk about weird! And he probably knew it was going on and couldn’t tell anyone.
I dunno, the woman in the photo looks plain stunned, to me. As if she just woke up from a dream and suddenly found herself in enemy territory. Hard to know what planet she was on. You’d have to be wretchedly lonely to the point of being delusional to pull a stunt like that. I sure don’t approve, but I don’t like to judge either because all of our lives are precarious.
loving_mom
Dec 26, 2007 at 10:57 am
I think they both need to be punished instead of pointing fingers. I can’t pass judgement on either of them because I do not know them or thier emotional situation. All I can say is she is old enough to know better and he is old enough to say “Yes” or “No” reguardless of what a law says.
Please forgive me becasue I can not remember her name but, does anyone remember that high school teacher who got pregeant from her 9th grade student? She had 2 or 3 of his kids and once she got out of prison they got married. He is not much older then I am now (20).
I think they both need to be punished. There was a story in the news not to long ago about a boyfriend and girlfriend being charged with distribution of child pornography. The only thing about it was they were 16 and 17 and they were emailing photos of sexual encounters with one another to each other. It was not pictures of little kids or of others it was of their own sex. They both got in trouble and it will be there forever.
I am not saying throw the book at either of them but, I am saying they should both be in the same boat.
April RJ
Dec 26, 2007 at 11:03 am
The bottom line is that she is the adult. Society looks to “the adults” to do what’s right and protect “the child”. The boy should be held accountable to some extent - but she is an adult and should have been able to act like a responsilbe adult. IMO she victimized a young man that she knew would not say no to a piece of ass (even vintage ass).
rockdoll_71
Dec 26, 2007 at 9:44 pm
LOL at that last comment! (vintage ass)
April RJ
Dec 27, 2007 at 9:03 am
Rockdoll - I’m 33 in April. I getting to the “vintage ass” point. but I am sure not out to get laid be teenagers. Bleh! What could possibly be exciting about a teenager?? To be honest - I don’t think they were sexy to me when I was in high school…..
rockdoll_71
Dec 27, 2007 at 12:04 pm
April, you got me. I think it’s really gross. I am 37 and I just don’t get what any grown woman would want with a little boy. As far as I am concerned, a 17 year old is a child to me. Plus the little guy might ‘go off’ before you even get started. LMAO….JUST KIDDING!!! :)
But seriously, all of these teachers that you see on tv screwing these little kids…there has to be something very wrong upstairs.
April RJ
Dec 27, 2007 at 2:01 pm
Rockdoll - I was thinking the same thing. I was a teenager before. I remember what teenage boys are like - EWWWWW. Gimme a man that knows what the hell he’s doin’.
I just think these women that prey on youn men (children) are sick skanks.
rockdoll_71
Dec 28, 2007 at 4:29 pm
I couldn’t agree more!
spikeswife
Mar 20, 2008 at 3:36 am
I’m late to the debate, I know, but I can’t help but think that this woman has suffered a mental breakdown of some sort. As has been mentioned, most middle-aged women aren’t attracted to 17-year-old boys and ordinary mothers with teen boys of their own are typically uniquely immune to their charms. I also think crucifying her for her actions with the boy is a bit of “throwing stones” behavior. This site describes scores of particularly heinous crimes and unbelievable acts of cruelty and you all choose this woman to condemn? I think we place too much importance on the “innocence” of teenagers. There’s very little innocence left in our teenaged children, if we’re honest with ourselves, and four acts of sex with an older woman will not scar this boy. I was subjected to the sight of a pervert’s semi-erect penis when I was about 12 or 13 and can honestly say it had no effect on me except to cause me to wish to delay the actual viewing of a real penis as long as possible (until I saw one in a textbook) because I thought they were all fat, ugly and purple. I think our preoccupation with sex and it’s effects causes more damage than good. I didn’t require counseling, but nowadays when a child is flashed by a pervert it’s a national tragedy. I think that a person should be allowed to consent to sex (assuming they are in possession of all their mental faculties) with another person of any age at the age of 17.
kewlbeans
Mar 22, 2008 at 8:36 pm
As I read through the archives of this site I cringe at most of these horrible and nearly unbelievable acts people can actually perform. It’s just as pitiful to read the stupid judgments people can place on this particular headline, that should just as well be ignored. This woman had sex with a young man. He wasn’t a child, he wasn’t a boy unable to participate or chose for himself not to, a young man. Young men his age are being trained by our military to kill other people and you haven’t voiced your appalling comments about those “children” or taken a stand to prevent it or make it illegal. Crap, this young man would have been tried as an adult if he had killed this woman, and if found guilty, very well would be sentenced as an adult to spend his life in prison. Most of “you people” would have been in the mob to lynch him because you have such hypocritical double standards and I believe you are actually jealous of the fact a young man could find her attractive in such a way as to want her sexually. I’ll tell you what is sick. To have your son and his grandmother killed in an automobile accident where the 19 year old driver in the other vehicle was found at fault while speeding in excess of 40 mph over the legal speed limit, and by witness statements, impacted the side of the automobile my boy was riding passenger, with such force that all four tires came off the pavement. After two years of attempting to have resolve, the 19 year old was sentenced to 120 days in the county jail with work release. The court sentences her to years of penalty, and you also condemn this woman for mutual pleasure. You writers and readers who judge her harshly, simply disgust me.
loving_mom
Mar 23, 2008 at 11:11 am
I agree with spikeswife. I am sure that she was going through something and he thought he was being nice by asking what was wrong. I am sure she feels like a whore and he went to school the next day and bragged to all of his friends how he got some of so and sos mom. At the age of 17 you should be allowed to consent to it. I am sure that if it was bothering him he would have spoke up and said “She raped me.” No mention of that here.
jaleja
Mar 24, 2008 at 9:45 am
spikeswife, I agree with you. 17 is a young adult, not a child. loving_mom, I agree with you, too. kewlbeans, I am so sorry to hear of your tragic loss, and I also agree with you. While I think the idea of having sex with a teenage boy, and ESPECIALLY the friend of my son is pretty repulsive (to me at least, I also don’t care for young men in their twenties. Give me a guy with some seasoning on him), I do not think this is a prosecutable offence. Gross, but not criminal, and I can’t find it in myself to condemn the woman for it.
But, repulsive or not, I don’t think
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