Parents Behaving Badly

76 opinions for Heather Heck Accused of Leaving Baby in Car for Weekend While She Partied

• Marque
  Dec 3, 2006 at 7:46 am

  You know, I was a police officer with LAPD for a while (not long, but long enough)and saw this sort of stuff ALL THE TIME. Only a small portion makes it to print. I was a daily thing. I just don’t get it. At all. They taught us that ONE out of every FIVE homes in United States had some sort of abuse or neglect going on. ONE OUT OF FIVE! Damn.

• DeAnn
  Dec 3, 2006 at 9:30 am

  As crazy as it may sound, thank God she left him in the vehicle and not in the house. Otherwise, he would most likely be dead. Angels were obviously with him that day because the neighbor reportedly stated he never uses the garage that he shared with his next-door neighbor but went in there that day.

  God bless that baby.

• The Zero Boss
  Dec 3, 2006 at 9:32 am

  “Angels were obviously with him that day”

  Too bad there were no angels looking after Marcus Fiesel.

• Melissa
  Dec 3, 2006 at 12:30 pm

  I hope that was tongue in cheek about Cales not being a moron.

• kellys
  Dec 3, 2006 at 7:45 pm

  This is why I want to be a foster mother when my kids get older! I have heard that some legal systems send the kids back when they might questin the efficacy of it becasue they don’t really have a place to put the kids. My aunt and uncle were foster parents and I just thought that was a wonderful and heart wrenching thing to do. YOu have to go into it knowing that you cacn only love the kids. They aren’t yours and they will leave eventually. It takes a special kind of person to do that!

• Steve Remington
  Dec 4, 2006 at 11:57 am

  Heather heck what the heck!

  I know somebody personally that had to spend a lot of evenings in her mother’s car while she went off and partied. Granted she wasn’t a baby but as an 8 year old it still has to be quite troubling. She remembers many times rolling down the window and asking strangers if they had anything to eat.

• A baby left in car and some stats on child abuse in America « tangledwing
  Dec 6, 2006 at 12:48 am

  […] Heather Heck Accused of Leaving Baby in Car for Weekend While She Partied  Heather HeckThanks to Trench for the heads-up on this story on CrimeRant about Heather Heck. The 23-year-old Loraine, Ohio woman really, really wanted a nice weekend out with her boyfriend. But, alas, she couldn’t find anyone to babysit./ So she did the only logical thing: wrapped her six-week-old child up in a bed sheet (and a dirty one at that), and left the little angel in a laundry basket in her boyfriend’s SUV. […]

• Jude
  Dec 6, 2006 at 2:50 am

  “and left the little angel in a laundry basket”

  Sure a new born is a little miracle, that every jing jang across the world can perform every nine months.

  Sheesh, when are we gonna get rid of this ridiculous notion that life is precious?

• Bill
  Dec 6, 2006 at 3:56 am

  Sheesh, when are we gonna get rid of this ridiculous notion that life is precious?

  Omg, omg, omg, HAHAHAHAHA, Literally laughing uncontrollably!!!

• Voidling
  Dec 6, 2006 at 5:16 am

  This is hideous I can not cope with Christians for this very reason. They are either holier than thou or a bunch of frightened sheep that fear their leaders.
  The real truth was that Jesus was illegitimate and was born in a stable possibly for the very same reasons (not evading tax as is a common thought) but to get away from the temple elders who would have stoned mother Mary to death for her premarital sex!! Oops sorry.. God impregnated her (yet another excuse)Holy Virgin my foot!

• kellys
  Dec 6, 2006 at 6:10 am

  And that comment is why I am thankful that I live in a country where opposing views can be shared. As a Christian, I do not follow blindly, nor am I holier than thou!!! I am just as big a sinnner as the rest of the world. I just have different issues than you do. I hope and pray that you have a merry Christmas and are able to find something good about the Holidays. It is one of my favorite holidays.

  Merry Christmas to all!

• Voidling
  Dec 6, 2006 at 8:46 am

  Mary Christmas Kelly

• kellys
  Dec 6, 2006 at 8:57 am

  See, I knew you had it in you, Voidling. You will either laugh or growl at me after this but Mary did give us a very merry christmas. :) Have a great day!

• Larry
  Dec 6, 2006 at 9:26 am

  What I find reprehensible is that this young lady has never been taught to value human life more than the views of her church. That is the fault of both her parents and the teachings of the church.

• Ree
  Dec 6, 2006 at 9:51 am

  Quick question for anyone. If this girl was having sex with her boyfriend, how did she hide the fact that she was pregnant from him? Even if she avoided sex for months after she found out, wouldn’t he have at least laid a hand on her belly and noticed something different?

• juls
  Dec 6, 2006 at 10:16 am

  Ree, Iwas wondering the same thing about the boyfriend!

• The Zero Boss
  Dec 6, 2006 at 10:19 am

  Ree, I think that’s why Melissa asked above if I was being sarcastic when I said the bf wasn’t a moron. Pregnant women’s stomachs are firm, not fat-squishy. You’d think the rocket scientist would’ve caught on.

• Bring it On! » Blog Archive » Sex Without God’s Permission is Bad!
  Dec 6, 2006 at 11:34 am

  […] Soooo bad that when you want to have a nice quiet weekend with your boyfriend you should wrap your baby up in a dirty sheet and leave it in your SUV for the weekend. [A] 23-year-old Loraine, Ohio woman really, really wanted a nice weekend out with her boyfriend. But, alas, she couldn’t find anyone to babysit./ So she did the only logical thing: wrapped her six-week-old child up in a bed sheet (and a dirty one at that), and left the little angel in a laundry basket in her boyfriend’s SUV. […]

• marie
  Dec 6, 2006 at 3:13 pm

  things like this realy ticks me off , people judge a whole church by what one person does or does not do, just because someone attends a certain church dont make them a christian.and having sex out of marriage is sin of fornication. but again people are just people, none are perfect, but when one makes a mestake they must repent of it and stop doing it and God forgives them. we are saved by grace and the mercies of God are renewed day by day.oh and we do not have to go confess our sins to the pastor and ask forgivness, or to get permission to do some thing we know is a sin, Im a happy christian and no one makes me serve God ,I do it because I want to

• VICTOR LEE MADRID
  Dec 6, 2006 at 5:50 pm

  I CANT BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE WOULD GO AND LEAVE A CHILD ALONE IN A CAR BY THEMSELVES EVEN ONE THAT CANT TAKE CARE OF ONESELF, NOW I SAY THANK JESUS THAT NOTHING HAPPEN TO THE BABY AND IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE FATHER IN TRYING TO GET CUSTODY OF THE CHILD, WHAT CHILD NEEDS A MOTHER WHO WONT TAKE CARE OF THEM. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT A CHILD IS A GIFT FROM GOD, PSALM 127-3 TELLS US SO, MAY SHE REALIZE HER MISTAKE AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS, WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES BUT LUCKY HER THIS DID NOT COST A LIFE FOR IT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG MISTAKE, AND YES SHE SHOULD BE PUNISHED FOR IT SORRY THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT AND I HOPE THAT OTHERS SEE IT TO.

• Julie
  Dec 6, 2006 at 7:16 pm

  My husband and I lost 4 very much wanted pregnancies in which I nearly lost my own life twice, now we can’t have any bio children.

  Didn’t this woman know what a Blessing she had?

  Or that there are women like me that would take that baby and Love that child,provide for that child and raise that child as my own until my last dying breath?

  I hope she rots in jail.
  Being ‘religious’ is no excuse for being IGNORANT.
  I hope she has plenty of time in prison to learn the Scriptures backwards and forwards.

• Wendy
  Dec 6, 2006 at 7:37 pm

  Sheesh, when are we gonna get rid of this ridiculous notion that life is precious?

  I don’t think it is a ridiculous notion, Jude. And you won’t either once your life or the life of someone you love is threatened. I thank God this baby was too young to know what her mother did to her. As an emergency foster care parent, I’ve seen a lot of troubled children who got that way thanks to neglectful parents.

  And Julie, my heart goes out to you. Infertility is such a private problem. Your friends don’t even know about it until you’ve been dealing with it for years.

• vyx
  Dec 6, 2006 at 7:39 pm

  I can definitely appreciate what jude said. Life is NOT precious. Life is pointless bull. Six billion plus people.We’re all just insignificant pieces of crap. If the human race was destroyed, it wouldn’t matter. No one would be around to be affected by it. And god, if there is one, is not loving. He’s a sadistic bastard.
  I’m sure there are some who’ll say,”if you hate life so much, why don’t you kill yourself.” good point. I’ve thought of it several times, but there are some people in my life that prevent it.
  Maybe that’s a contradiction?
  p.s. was Bill laughing at Jude or laughing because he appreciated what Jude said.

• Gary
  Dec 6, 2006 at 10:53 pm

  Scientists have discovered 7×10 to the 13th power stars out there. How many stars is that? If each star were a piece of paper and placed flat one against the next, 7×10 to the 13th power would stretch around the earth 600 times. Each one of those stars is a sun with planets revolving around it. You are one small speck living on one small planet revolving around one small sun.. Pretty small?? yes, but when you look into the vast immensity of stars and space, you are looking at the handiwork of God, when you look in the mirror or at another person, you are looking at the literal offspring of God for whom all that handiwork was made. We are not humans having a spiritual experience, we are spirits having a human experience……….Merry Christmas

• Monica
  Dec 6, 2006 at 11:07 pm

  the Baby is a angel.the baby came from of God
  always have the protection..and everyone we can get forgivinees from gad if we do from bottom of heart…

• Jenny
  Dec 7, 2006 at 5:03 am

  I have a name for that kind of mother “mutant mothers”…because no real mother would be that criminally selfish and negligent. I consider this type to be true freaks of nature…and they seem to be growing in number in this country. God bless the little children and protect them always.

• lilly
  Dec 7, 2006 at 5:42 am

  GOD EXPOSES STUPIDITY SO THAT OTHER IDIOTS CAN AVOID TO THAT ONE DUMB THING. HOW MANY MORONS DO THINK THOUGHT THAT WAS ALRIGHT, UNTIL THEY READ THAT IT WASNT???

• Sadie
  Dec 7, 2006 at 5:44 am

  quoting Bill: Bill Says:
  December 6th, 2006 at 3:56 am
  Sheesh, when are we gonna get rid of this ridiculous notion that life is precious?

  Omg, omg, omg, HAHAHAHAHA, Literally laughing uncontrollably!!!

  To this, I can only say that if someone were holding a loaded gun to your head, you would whine like a 2 year old about how precious your life is.

• Marie
  Dec 7, 2006 at 5:45 am

  26Jenny,

  Are you a Christian? If so, you are being very very judgemental and cruel to a woman you dont even know. Talking about God bless the children yet condeming their moms. Would Jesus do that?
  Think before you speak or write!

• Jenny
  Dec 7, 2006 at 5:48 am

  Marie….if you can’t bring yourself to condemn a woman who bundled up her six week old baby in a dirty sheet and left him in a car so she could spend a weekend with her boyfriend…then you’re a better person than me.

• Sarah
  Dec 7, 2006 at 7:21 am

  Those of you who simultaneously praise “god” & condemn this woman have got to wake up and see that it’s irrational god-fear that drove her to do what she did. It drives a great number of “normal, hetero” (you know, the only acceptable kind) parents to do horrific things to their children. Putting them in cages, witholding food & forcing them to copy Deutoronomy, drowning them in the tub to save them from “Satan,” etc., etc.
  That baby is not a “gift from god;” he’s the product of a basic biological function. Sure, his life is important, but don’t delude yourself into thinking he’s actually an angel or something equally ridiculous. His mother was a wee babe at one point too. Was she an angel as well?

• Jenny
  Dec 7, 2006 at 7:25 am

  yeah well…funny how her “irrational God-fear” didn’t keep her from meeting with her boyfriend for a week-end liason.

• Sarah
  Dec 7, 2006 at 7:37 am

  You’re right Jenny. The hypocricy of fundies knows no bounds.

• Jenny
  Dec 7, 2006 at 7:42 am

  “The hypocricy of fundies knows no bounds”.
  Sarah, that’s a statement I can wholly agree with.

• Marie
  Dec 7, 2006 at 1:33 pm

  HEY SARAH AND JENNY

  JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED..Matt 7:2-5 READ THE BIBLE ITS IN THERE.

• Sarah
  Dec 7, 2006 at 2:46 pm

  Marie, I don’t consider the bible a reliable source on anything, let alone ethics. I’ll judge child abusers as much as I want.

• Sue
  Dec 7, 2006 at 6:30 pm

  Well, if you dont believe in the Bible, believe in what goes around, comes around.. what u do to others will come back to you. I believe its called Karma.

  Maybe you will do something someday that you think is fine but others will gossip and badmouth and judge you harshly. It may not be tommorow or next week.. but it will come back to you.

• JR
  Dec 7, 2006 at 11:02 pm

  Pray for Heather & her family. The Hecks are great, loving people. I hope & pray that this miraculous little boy gets to grow up in the same loving household that his aunt & uncles grew up in. I would hope that this is a situation that the community could rally around. Regardless of your opinion of Heather, please do not judge her family based on assumptions & media exaggerations. I believe that EVERYONE wants what’s best for this precious child. He deserves to be loved by his family & live with them. Please show love & support, not anger & hate.

• The Zero Boss
  Dec 7, 2006 at 11:13 pm

  “Maybe you will do something someday that you think is fine but others will gossip and badmouth and judge you harshly.”

  Sue, if I EVER abandon my child like this woman did, I will deserve every insult hurled at me.

  I’m a Buddhist, so I know the notion of karma well. Karma applies to your NEXT life; it doesn’t rebound within the current one. Don’t use concepts you don’t understand, please.

  Finally, I find the Christian notion that this child was somehow protected by God to be insulting. What about all the other kids documented on this site who died ? Where was God then?

• Voidling
  Dec 8, 2006 at 3:37 am

  Oh for heavens sake Marie! Leave Jenny and Sarah out if the Bible thing are you surmising everyone is a Christian and believes the Bible was written by GOD! Well news for you babe it wasn’t it was written by the a controlling bunch of Elders who invented the catholic church. don’t believe me do some in-depth research. Anyway is it not a Christian value of yours to live and let live? Love thy Muslim and Buddhist neighbour and not judge. Big joke you Christians! Why answer each others comments if it maddens you? And Marie all Christians ARE judged the same you must then call it another name if you want to think differently A tar brush is a tar brush and you are called the same you are painted the same. Oh and Kelly I was being sarcastic or dident you get it? pity that you probably not so bright after all.

• stephanie
  Dec 8, 2006 at 3:38 am

  She ought to be shot in the face and left at the side of the road as bird food. Since it’s more likely she’ll be slapped on her slutty wrist and sent on her way WITH her helpless son, I would at least suggest that someone make it impossible for her to have anymore children. However that needs to be done. I hope someone was intelligent enough to at least remove the child from her custody. Of course, that will only be temporary. Once she’s finished some jackass “parenting classes” and gotten some “counseling” they’ll give the baby back to her so she can abuse it even more.

  Anyone and everyone who abuses, neglects, or emotionally mistreats a child should be disposed of in the most violent of fashions and their remains scattered over landfill. That’s where trash goes.

• Sarah
  Dec 8, 2006 at 7:31 am

  What the hell are you talking about, Sue? I haven’t wronged anyone! I am not at all worried about my “karma.” You and I are both participating in a discussion on this website. I wonder why you feel the need to come on here to shame us about… what was it? Condemning child abusers?
  And I agree with The Zero Boss: Finally, the Christian notion that this child was protected by god is insulting. Guess he really dropped the ball on the non-miraculous deceased kids.

• Sarah
  Dec 8, 2006 at 7:42 am

  Oh, and Sue, I wasn’t even wishing death or torture on Heather Heck. So your strange threat was way out of proportion.
  I was pointing out the dangers of religion, fundamentalism in particular. Am I wrong to call out hypocricy & lunacy when I see it?

• Kim
  Dec 8, 2006 at 7:50 am

  >>The Hecks are great, loving people

  Are you kidding me? For a mother to leave her child in a car for a weekend there is NOT love there. If she was more worried about how her church would feel about her then the wellbeing of her child then she should not have a child. I most certainly will judge any parent ( I use that term loosely) that neglects their children. I have two beautiful boys. I can not IMAGINE doing anything to hurt either of them, and I even suffered from PPD for a while after my first child was born. STILL I knew better than to do anything to hurt him. Am I perfect? Certainly not, but ignorance is not an excuse for abuse EVER.

  And as for the person who said that life is not precious? Does that really give anyone the right to hurt thier children who can not even fight back for themselves? Those children who RELY on society to make sure their parents are up to par. I would hope that if I were ever in a position that I may be hurting my children that society would step in and save their lives. I hope the Heck family (father included) never see that beautiful baby again.

• Roy
  Dec 8, 2006 at 7:51 am

  Well, well this is mud slinging at its best! Voidling mentions a tar brush is a tar brush which ever way you look at it. So is a Christian in my view. Just see how aggravated they all are.
  Nooo, mustn’t wrong a Christian, well then what the hell was the woman doing Lying to her boyfriend and community about? Her sinful irresponsible nature only got her deeper in the poo! Typical Christian behaviour to me. Follow blindly where ever you go God will provide! They also condemn other religions because theirs is the only way to heaven. Brainwashed poo. Grow up the lot of you.

• Kim
  Dec 8, 2006 at 7:52 am

  >>Anyone and everyone who abuses, neglects, or emotionally mistreats a child should be disposed of in the most violent of fashions and their remains scattered over landfill. That’s where trash goes.

  I couldnt agree more.

• kkat
  Dec 8, 2006 at 10:22 am

  kim
  I would really like to follow up on your comment on how you said the heck family should never be able to see that baby again.i have known the hecks my entire life and they are wonderful caring people and they did not deserve to have what their daughter did to them happen and neither did the father of the baby,I really hate how everyone keeps on bad mouthing her family and if you knew them personally like I do you would understand,as for heather i’ve known her my whole life she is an amazing person and i would never expect that she would ever do anything like this, but she did and i hope she can make everything right again even if it does mean serving lots of jail time.

• Kim
  Dec 8, 2006 at 12:41 pm

  In response to Kkat:

  my feelings about this is this… WHAT IF no one had found that baby and the baby died? Would you still think heather was a wonderful person? I’m sorry I don’t care what was happening, I can not fathom doing anything hurtful to my children. IF she was suffering from something like post partum psychosis then I truly hope that she gets help. As for the father of the baby did he not know that something was wrong? did he not know that there was a baby. And when i say “the Heck family” I don’t necessarily mean the babies grandparents. I HOPE like heck that if I EVER did something like this to my children that my family would keep my babies safe… even if that meant keeping them far from me. I’m sorry that your friends have been hurt by this and by what people are saying but there is no excuse in my eyes. Something so terrible shouldn’t be so easily forgiven.

• kellys
  Dec 8, 2006 at 12:49 pm

  Voidling, I totally got and dished it right back. Guess you missed that part :)

  As far as all this Christianity and judgement talk, I have to answer for what I do, not what you do. Remeber that and be thankful that you don’t answer for her. The way I see it, there are 2 sides to every story and the truth lies somewhere in between.

• kkat
  Dec 8, 2006 at 1:44 pm

  I was definately do not think that anything heather did was ok in fact I am very sadend and angry about what she did, and i thank god that the baby is ok . I just feel so confused on how someone Ive cared about my whole life could do something like this, believe it or not the girl i knew really was a great person she was a very happy caring person, always cosiderate of others and just a wonderful person, and her parents and siblings are wonderful people and I want people that dont know her to understand that she wasn’t always this monster people portray her as. I think its important for people to know her background .I dont want anyone to think that i feel its ok what she did because it was a very horrible thing. I just pray she is truly remorseful for what she has done and that every minute of her life, she thinks about how she could have left her baby alone in that car and the guilt of that stays with her forever , and that punishment will truly be what she deserves.

• Lilbit
  Dec 11, 2006 at 11:50 pm

  My nephew is the father of this baby boy, or at least that’s what we’re all hoping and praying that the DNA test will prove. I wish I could give details as to how Heather hid both the pregnancy, and the baby from Wesley, but I can’t since the case is ongoing. I’m hoping that all of those things will be publicized when the trial proceeds. I can tell you this though, my nephew is seeking custody of his son, and will be an excellent father. He has the full support of his entire family and we’ll all be there to help him if we’re needed. Inside of a week Wesley has managed to get everything that he needs in order to bring his baby home, and has the crib already set up in his bedroom. Clothes, diapers, bottles, blankets, car seat, etc…Many guys his age run from the responsibility of their children. My nephew is anxiously waiting for the day he brings his baby home. Our entire family is anxious to wrap our arms around the newest member of our family. I can understand how some feel as if he had to have known that Heather was pregnant. I can understand how people are surprised that she not only managed to hide the pregnancy, but also hid the baby for two months. If I didn’t have a front row seat to this nightmare I’d be thinking the same way. I’m not here to slam Heather, nor am I able to disclose as much information as I wish I could. I’m simply here to tell you that Wesley and the baby will have all of the help they need. The baby will be loved and well cared for. Wesley will be a very good father who will love and protect his child for the rest of his life.

• Tamzin
  Dec 12, 2006 at 1:32 am

  Lets hope Wesley leaves this dominating church and gets to practice his faith in a regular surrounding or he will be the next to hide away something so normal and natural. This Church is largely to blame for the fear instilled in Heather. She must have been so tormented by her indoctrination that it drove to do this silly act. Now please go and check out this church and its people before its to late for all of them. There seems to be a bad brainwashing force within this group to allow youngsters to hide their most natural and normal human deeds. This is no Christian way to behave. Christians are getting a bad enough reputation because of this type of thing. Heather must have realized her wrong doing by now and realized too what her indoctrination or I like to call it brain washing has done to her. She sounds like a weak sole who needs love and kindness not hell fire and dread! Take care Heather you know you have been mislead now walk tall again and get Wesley to see you were a good person perhaps the two of you will have a happy and well adjusted family one day. But get the hell out of that environment that oppresses you. Find a regular place of worship one that does not condemn or Judge.
  Good luck to both of you and make the most of your bundle of Joy!
  I hope your Judge in court reads this for his decision. And bars all entry to that brainwashing sect!

• stephanie
  Dec 12, 2006 at 5:06 am

  Lilbit:
  I am so incredibly happy for Wesley that he has the courage and the decency to claim, love, and raise his son. Thank you, so very very much for posting. It makes me feel so much better to know that this little guy has a loving, caring Daddy and a huge support system for both of them. Please, please tell Wesley that a complete and total stranger (me!) is proud proud PROUD to know that there are men like him around to compensate for women like Heather. I will pray hard that Heather gets the help she desperately needs, because it will be important for this baby boy to “someday” know his mother, once she has become a person worthy of being called “mother”.

  My very best to your entire family….blessings to Wesley and baby boy. I will be praying for all of you. This is a very special little boy. He will do amazing things!

• Net Crap (12/7) at Musings of a Chicagoan
  Dec 12, 2006 at 10:28 pm

  […] “She wanted a nice weekend out with her boyfriend […s]o she […] wrapped her six-week-old child up in a [dirty] bed sheet […] and left the little angel in a laundry basket in her boyfriend’s SUV.” “How leaving a child to die or be kidnapped is preferable to telling your pastor that you had pre-marital sex is beyond me. Did Heck think that Jesus doesn’t have a ranking system? […] Cales, not being a moron, was aghast […] now suing for full cust (tags: neg-holy_holy_shit neg-whaddafuck neg-horrifying) […]

• Arnold Teal
  Dec 13, 2006 at 1:17 am

  Hay well done Tamzin!
  Well done your thoughts mirror mine these poor lost Christians who fear for their life are all around us and they go to extremes to hide who they really are. I feel very strongly that certain churches breath dread into their congregation. What for? that’s not the message God wanted to spread he wants normal people to love not fear and pannic. Get out of this Heather you have a chance and choice to be normal and still believe and have your faith.
  I hope the Judge realizes you were forced to believe in your fear and not God.

• Lilbit
  Dec 13, 2006 at 7:53 am

  The church as become a major topic of conversation in all of this and I feel as if I have to say a few things. First of all I’ll tell you that I’m not a member of this church, or any other church at this time. I have however visited this church in the past. The papers reported that Heather came from a very religious background. This isn’t true. She did attend services with Wesley at times, but is by no means a “religious” person. That isn’t to say that she’s a “bad” person either. I have other family members who attend this church and can assure you that there is no “brain washing” going on. Another nephew and his girlfriend who are members there, had engaged in sex before they were married and she became pregnant. Unfortunately she miscarried, but not before the church members had planned to have a baby shower for her. When she and my nephew were married, they were married in that church and the members celebrated their special day with them. They were supported in that church and always will be. Not brain-washed, not held against their will, but welcomed and cared about. As I said, I’m not a member of any church, but I can’t read these things without trying to help set the record straight. I can’t remember Wesleys exact words, but when he spoke to the reporter he said something along the lines of “Maybe she thought our church would look badly on us, or would disown us…” And again I can see how that could be percieved as a church that would preach hellfire and brimstone and scare someone into doing things that are out of the ordinary for them. However, all Wesley was trying to say in all of this is the same thing that the rest of us are asking…why? What would make Heather do any of the things she did? Was she worried about what the church members would say? Was she worried about her parents being angry? Was she worried that Wesley would be upset? Was she worried that Wesleys parents would be upset? There are so many unanswered questions and they all start with “what was she thinking? What was going on in her mind?” This was a young man who for the first time in his life was being interviewd by a reporter about something that forever changed his life! There was no rehearsal. He was asked a question and answered it in much the same way that he still answers it today - not knowing what caused Heather to react the way she did. Another thing that comes to mind is that this wasn’t a spur of the moment thing for her. We don’t know if the baby was a preemie, or if she carried the baby to term. What we do know though is that she had months to make a decision on what to do! She said she had the baby at home and went to work the next day. She could just as easily have gone to the hospital, had the baby, left him behind where he was safe, and went to work the next morning. No questions asked. She had two months to tell Wesley that she had the baby. But she made the decision to put the baby in the garage and go to Pa. to visit her family! She could have called childrens services or another organization to help her take care of the baby in the correct way. They could have guided her on how to go about telling Wesley, her parents - someone! None of this had to happen the way it did. I keep going over and over in my mind what it must have been like for this poor baby. To be so cold and alone. It just brings tears to my eyes. And not because he’s my nephew, but because he’s a tiny human being. I try to not be angry with Heather, but there are some days that I just can’t help it. She has been a member of our family in all ways and we would have celebrated the birth of the baby with her. Not a soul in our family would have turned our backs on her for being pregnant before she and Wesley were married. My own mother who is 74 years old has taken all of this very hard. She would like to be able to wrap her arms around Heather and try to understand why she did this to the baby. I’ve never met her family, and can’t say how they would have reacted, but I’d like to think that they would have continued to love her and support her emotionally. This entire situation has been very difficult for them also. My first hope of course is that the DNA test proves that this is Wesleys child and unites him and his baby as soon as possible. My second hope is that Heather gets counseling, and that she’ll be totally honest with the counselor so gets the help that she needs.

• Arnold Teal
  Dec 15, 2006 at 1:09 am

  Lilbit, I think I owe you my humble apologies for my comment.
  I may have read the whole thing out of context as most did, the report is certainly written that way and I must apologise if what you have written is closer to the truth than the report.
  Reading what you have just written has helped me and others understand that there may have been some other reasons other than the Church involved here.
  I now apologise to that Church too.
  Although in the same breath many a Church or Priest manage to push their hard line principals on to youngsters making them fearful thinking they will rectify society’s ills.
  I guess reading what we all did we failed to understand and surmised that someone should be held responsible. It now seems Heather is soley to blame. I can’t think why she would do such a thing shame in this instance seems to be a poor excuse with all the education around us today and support systems in place, one wonders how this happened. Lilbit I hope you and your kind hearted nephew will come to the truth and if Heather has a problem be it mental or what ever we wish her all the help and assistance perhaps she will understand, get well and be able to see her child from time to time. But I would certainly allow Wesley the chance to be a full-time Daddy This little child must have suffered untold damage there seemed to be no bonding and something so small needs love and assistance to make it in our world. I hope the child suffers no further damage.

  I just hope that other Churches and Priests that breath fear into their congregation realize that this could be a consequence and what is worse Unprotected Sex? or failing the wrath of God?
  He’s happy there’s another life created. Rather teach responsibility for actions.
  Sorry Lilbit for the misunderstanding all the best for the Holidays.

• EK
  Dec 15, 2006 at 4:29 pm

  Well I went to school with this girl. I never would have thought that this girl could have done something like this. I do not understand her logic. Also, who wants to belong to a church that doesn’t accept a person for who they are? I hope Heather has learned from this and I hope the baby is far away as possible from her. It makes me sick and disgusted to even think that someone can be so cruel and selfish to another human being.

• Lilbit
  Dec 17, 2006 at 9:09 pm

  Thank you. I appreciate your understanding. There was no need for an apology, but I thank you for it. I agree with so much of what you said. Many church leaders (of all religions)shame their members into doing irrational things. It’s so sad that any child suffers at the hands of their parents. With the safe haven law there’s never a need for anyone to feel as if they have no place to turn. I don’t agree though that a decision has to be made within 72 hours. If for any reason a parent can’t, or doesn’t want to keep their child, I think they should be able to take him or her to a safe place - no matter what the age. If there’s another girl out there who is pregnant and scared, I hope she finds someone to confide in, or at least calls a counselor at Childrens Services. No child should ever suffer the way my nephew did, and no family should have to go through the emotional rollercoaster that our family, and Heathers have been on.
  On a happier note, Wesley is making progress toward taking his baby home. None of it is moving along as quickly as we’d like it to, but we understand, and we’re all trying to be patient. At least each of us go to bed at night knowing that the baby is safe, warm and well cared for.
  I hope that you and your family have a safe and happy time over the holidays.

• Nightowl
  Dec 19, 2006 at 10:23 pm

  Every man is a moon; he has a side no one sees.

• April
  Mar 27, 2007 at 3:07 pm

  Religion has nothing at all to do with this case. She may have used religion as some kind of excuse for what she did, but there is none. And to all of you “Christians” who commented on yourselves that we should not stereoype this is not about you. Whether you believe in God or not you do not leave your young child anywhere alone esp. wrapped in a sheet in a basket.

• Tmoney
  May 2, 2007 at 7:59 am

  i know da people here, they be good poeple and wesley anit no nothign bout no kid.

  dat gurrl be crazy tho,i think she be in jail now or something.

• xtalrose
  Jun 3, 2007 at 8:04 am

  YEAH!! JENNIIE AND MARK (both pervs) did a real good job wrapping up that bun in the oven! MAYBE A REAL ANGEL was involved ya know the one who handed Heather the clothes basket! yeah Heather drove all the way to Wellington to get that clothes basket. Then I seen her at Wendy’s in North ridgeville working at the drive thru after I finally got done at scum bag casmer hut! Gee why didnt she just go to Big Lots or Family Dollar or even Dollar Tree for that clothes basket!Wellington is pretty far to go for a clothes basket! Good thing I was washing windows for those pigs and handed it to her with a paper towel! And the pervs!!! were’nt to happy about that!!! Then gee Heather had to go to Lorain and work! there might be a god but only if you have $$$$$$$$and that you fool CHRISTIANS IS THE REAL REASON !!!!!

• xtalrose
  Jun 4, 2007 at 1:45 pm

  HELLO TMONEY and NIGHT OWL IBET I KNOW YOU !!!!STILL HAVING FUN AT THAT CEMETARY! HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!! HOW SICK CAN YOU GET?!

• Chris
  Jun 18, 2007 at 9:14 pm

  First off, i know Wesley, hes a good friend. And he had no idea of the baby until 2 monts after its birth. The story is true and very tragic, but the baby is fine, and is in full custody of wesly(the father), the mother is out of jail and trying to get back with wes, i told him that if he does then i’ll beat the shit out of him because first you let the father know if hes having a baby and 2nd you don;’t leave a baby in the back of a car.

• ogeez
  Jun 30, 2007 at 11:21 am

  ya…um i know heather, shes a wonderful person that made a bad decision

  and wesley only has temporary custody…

• stephanie
  Jun 30, 2007 at 12:03 pm

  She’s shit. End of story. I’d like to be all Christian and all but when I smell shit, I’m gonna say “that’s shit”. And this stupid slut is a prime example.

  Let me say this about “Heather the wonderful person”. I don’t give a good goddamn who she was before this happened, but once she wrapped that little boy in a dirty sheet and plopped him in the back of an SUV and hauled ass, SHE CEASED TO BE A PERSON OF ANY SORT..much less a wonderful one.

  Seriously. I don’t care if she was a candidate for sainthood. Bitch left her baby alone, eventually wet, hungry, baby in the back of a car. She’s trash. She’s garbage. She’s scum. “A bad decision?!” Are you HIGH?! Running a red light is a bad decision. Drinking and driving is a bad decision. Dropping out of high school is a bad decision. LEAVING YOUR BABY TO POTENTIALLY STARVE/DEHYDRATE TO DEATH IN THE BACK OF A VEHICLE FOR A WEEKENED IS NOT A BAD DECISION. It is child abuse. It is a crime, and she is guilty.

  Personally, I’d like to beat the living shit out of this girl. She needs to be strung up and treated like a pinata. Somebody tell her for me that I think she needs to have her legs welded shut at the knee, and she should be sentenced to a lifetime of torture.

• ogeez
  Jun 30, 2007 at 12:42 pm

  lmao omg ur sucha bitch u dont even kno the fucking goddam story or all the pain shes going thru

  u think that she wanted to do that shit? fuck no! i hope u burn in hell cuz i kno she wont

• stephanie
  Jun 30, 2007 at 1:25 pm

  OMG….speak our fucking language. You’re an ignorant jackass if you think I give a fuck about the “pain she’s going through”. What fuckin pain? The pain of “oh shit, I got caught?” Pain for herself or pain for that innocent baby she dumped in the back of a car? And as for “the fucking goddamn story” (you really need to learn to spell) I don’t need to know it. She left her baby in her car wrapped in a dirty sheet for days.

  Do you have kids, you ignorant shit? Are you by any chance a medical professional? If you answer NO to those questions then you don’t know jack. Do you know how many kids I’ve seen that haven’t been as lucky as this baby? Have you ever seen a child who’s been left to die in the back of a vehicle, you stupid silly fuck? Their skin peels and splits if they’ve been in the heat, and if they’ve been in the cold they’re blue and lifeless. They come into my emergency room and there’s not shit I can do about it. I can try to infuse fluids, but I can’t get a vein because either the skin is too cooked or too frozen. I can’t give an injection of medication because again….the skin is either too fragile or too tough. And there’s these perfect little babies, with bow-tie lips and chubby hands and feet and they’re DEAD. D-E-A-D. And we cover them with sheets and they sit on a cold metal table.

  You’re a kid….that’s obvious by your “cyber-spelling” crap. Do I think she “wanted to do that shit?” I tell you what, stupid….I think she had a lot of choices and she chose to abandon her baby. So yeah, I think she “wanted to do that shit.”

  So when your stupid, slutty, irresponsible, criminal, ignorant, child-abusing piece of trash friend is sitting in jail, I hope all she can hear is the sound of that hungry baby screaming for his mother, for food, for comfort.

  Her pain? Oh yes please….DO tell me more about Heather’s pain. Tell me how bad she hurts. Tell me how sorry she is. Tell me how bad she feels about it. And then ask me if I give a fuck what that bitch feels. She feels for her own ugly ass and nothing else. She’s a fucking child-abusing cow and I’d laugh my ass off if they made an example of her and sent her upstate for a few years.

  You’re right about one thing….I’m a bitch. Especially when I see babies being abused simply because one fucking cum dumpster couldn’t keep her damned legs shut.

  Fuck her and fuck you too, dumbass. Anybody who can justify her actions is as bad as she is.

• Lilbit
  Jun 30, 2007 at 4:11 pm

  To ogeez: People like you never cease to amaze me! Obviously you are a mental CHILD who knows nothing about life! You sound like someone who is in elementary school, and I’m not referring to the way you speak. Your primary concern is defending your friend and being at her side. If you were a mature adult, you’d know when it’s time to admit that your friend did wrong, no matter how much you may love her! In fact, I’d be happy to hear your take on this, so please share! Your friend put a newborn baby in a cold, dark garage with absolutely NO means of caring for himself to DIE (in my opinion) and in your mind, you back Heather in her decision and feel that she was justified in doing so? Please! Do share! Explain to all of us how ANY part of this was right!! I’m dying to know how a mind like yours and Heathers works! You should also know that Wesley has FULL PERMANENT custody of Sammy. Or is this another thing that your so-called friend has lied to you about? Lets just ask her ourselves, because she reads these message boards!

  What’s the deal Heather? Are you going to boo hoo to your attorney about me AGAIN because I speak my mind? How would you expect me to react? The hurt that you have caused the families is tremendous! Not just my family, but your own as well! No one could have loved you more than your parents, Wesley and his parents - and you betrayed all of them! Your parents will continue to support you, as they should. As your parents, and the fact that they love you unconditionally, they’ll be there for you. But I’m sure even they have admitted to themselves that what you did was WRONG! This is my opinion, and I’m entitled to my opinion. When you came home from visiting your family in Pa after three days, I don’t think you expected to come home and still find the baby alive in that truck! By the way, I didn’t refer to him by name in that sentence because from what I’ve heard, that’s what you were calling him at the time. Just baby. You robbed Wesley of the experience of seeing his first child born. You robbed all of the grandparents of the same thing. I’m curious, did you think that people would think of you as a strong person because you gave birth alone and still went about your daily life as if nothing happened? Were we to think of you as being strong because you hid this baby away like he was some filthy disease that you didn’t want anyone to know about? Because if that’s what was in YOUR mind you were wrong once again! A STRONG woman would have told Wesley and all of the parents that she was pregnant. She would have gotten prenatal care to try to ensure the birth of a strong, healthy baby. She would have seen to it that her baby was cared for every moment of every day! You know that none of this had to be done the way you did it! I don’t know your parents so I don’t know how they would have reacted if you’d have told them that you were pregnant. But I DO know my nephew and his parents and they would have been there to help you in any way they could! There isn’t a soul in my family that wouldn’t have helped you and you know that! You CHOSE to hide your pregnancy. And for at least two months after Sammy was born you CHOSE to hide him from the world. Let me ask you, have you ever seen your baby picture on the day you were born? Do you know how much you weighed, and how long you were? Sammy will never have these things! Years from now when he’s a married man his wife might ask to see his baby picture. The closest one he’ll have is when he’s a couple of months old. No one will ever know what he weighed at birth or how long he was because there’s no record of his birth on the day that he actually came into this world! Am I angry? YES I AM!! I’m angry with the way you chose to handle all of this! On Thanksgiving day you were with my entire family in a warm house with lots of food and surrounded people who loved and cared about you. Where was Sammy that day Heather? Closet? Garage? Where? You were tired and Wesley asked if you wanted him to take you to your home but you said no! Not only did you NOT go home at that time, you went to Wesleys parents house until late into the night - all the while Sammy was God-knows-where! Unprotected, hungry and in need of a clean diaper! YES I AM ANGRY! Do I hate you? No! I hate what you did! I hate it that none of this had to happen the way YOU chose to have it happen! You have people like ogeez defending you, so obviously you would have had support if you would have told people that you were pregnant. And again, our entire family would have supported you and helped you in any way that we could have! One thing I always hear is how intelligent you are. To a degree I have to admit that it’s true. You were intelligent enough to tell people that you had trouble with your pancreas and that the meds caused you to bloat a little. You were intelligent enough to scheme and find ways to hide a newborn baby. I consider myself to be intelligent too, but I never could have found ways to do the things that you did. Bravo! Do you feel any sense of pride in being so “intelligent?” You disgust me! Every day in this country people are abandoning, hurting and murdering children and it has to stop! I personally know three families right now who would love to have children and can’t - and people are treating children like yesterdays garbage! Do I care if you serve time in prison for your actiions, and how much time you might serve? Yes I do. I care because I don’t want you to walk away from your crime against Sammy with a little slap on the wrist. I want ALL child abusers and killers of children to be held accountable for their actions! I’d love to see child abuse in this world come to an abrupt halt because the penalties are so severe!

• Nightowl
  Jul 3, 2007 at 7:43 pm

  You all need to grow up! xtalrose you haven’t a clue of who I am. I in no way condone what Heather has done, wrong is wrong no matter how you look at it, merely quoting a fact that “everyone” has a side no one sees.

• stephanie
  Jul 4, 2007 at 8:54 am

  Lilbit, good for you. Unload, unload, and then unload some more because you ARE entitled. To hell with Heather and all the other selfish, narcissistic, abusive parents. Wesley deserved the opportunity to be a part of that pregnancy. Sammy deserves to have his gestation and his birth remembered as happy, beautiful occasions and instead he has to live knowing that his mother didn’t care enough about him to get prenatal care. She didn’t love him enough to tell anyone he was coming. And he has to live with the knowledge that his own mother locked him away like a dirty little secret instead of a beautiful little boy. I hope your nephew and his baby boy run like hell to any corner of the earth where Heather Speck can’t find them or hurt them anymore.

  Sammy will, however, grow up in the love and warmth of a very strong family who obviously worships and adores him. There is no doubt in my mind that your family can love this child far more than Heather Speck could ever possibly be capable of. With your continued support and unconditional love, Sammy will grow into a wonderful person who views the circumstances of his birth as an opportunity to demonstrate his own strength. Bless you all and my very best wishes to Wesley and Sammy

• xtalrose
  Jul 4, 2007 at 4:20 pm

  To Heather; or any one else, Sorry if I offended anyone. I know what Heather and her friend did and why. I put this in GODS HANDS! HE WILL HAVE TO DECIDE. But it did not have to come down to this! People are scum point blank! hey yeah never know Heather maybe I’ll see you in jail!I bet Tiffany is jealous! Hey Mark and Jean I HOPE you like it hot!

• Heather
  Jul 5, 2007 at 10:44 am

  I`m with Stephanie 100% on this one. Forget religion, forget sexual orientation, forget `stupid mistakes`. This monster took a brand new baby, stuck him in a laundry basket and left him in the garage. Personally, that`s all I need to know. And there`s no punishment terrible enough.

• xtalrose
  Jul 16, 2007 at 4:18 am

  Yeah you got that right! But why did you have to fuck Mark at the cemetary right next to me!!!!Thanks Alot scum BAGS !!!!!!!OH YEAH COMFORT KEEPERS FUCK YOU TOO AND VERIZON I HOPE YOU ALL ROT IN HELLLLLL!!!!!!

• jamienaudrey
  Oct 17, 2007 at 5:29 am

  this is wuite disturbing… this girl has a myspace page… AND A KID…i dont know if its the same one or a new one, but she doesnt need ANY
  http://www.myspace.com/heathermae7

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